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I agree! I think that each contest needs to be standardized on how water is dispensed and how temp will be measured.

The B event and the C event at nationals had different ways. Neither was optimal, but if you knew that was the way it would be run, you could compensate for it in making your plots.

Remember that these people are volunteers and are doing their best, but it sure would be nice to know the specifics ahead of the competition.

I agree! I think that each contest needs to be standardized on how water is dispensed and how temp will be measured.

The B event and the C event at nationals had different ways. Neither was optimal, but if you knew that was the way it would be run, you could compensate for it in making your plots.

Remember that these people are volunteers and are doing their best, but it sure would be nice to know the specifics ahead of the competition.

iwonder wrote:Probably a new scoring method and dimension changes. I could dream of allowing more materials, but I doubt it.

Sometimes if you wish really hard on a star, your dreams come true;)

retired1 wrote:I agree! I think that each contest needs to be standardized on how water is dispensed and how temp will be measured.

The B event and the C event at nationals had different ways. Neither was optimal, but if you knew that was the way it would be run, you could compensate for it in making your plots.

Remember that these people are volunteers and are doing their best, but it sure would be nice to know the specifics ahead of the competition.

definitely agree with you, one thing i found especially wrong was the time it took to take the container of hot water to get from the water source to the box, people closest to the box had the most accurate temperature, versus people farthest away received the water colder than the announced temperature was supposed to be, anything to improve that would be greatly appreciated...

chalker wrote:

iwonder wrote:Probably a new scoring method and dimension changes. I could dream of allowing more materials, but I doubt it.

Sometimes if you wish really hard on a star, your dreams come true;)

Seeing as the manual is out, do you mind telling us who don't have it yet what that entails?

As I may be trying to do this event this year, could someone describe a majority of what the rules cover, as I do not have a copy yet? As I remember from 2 years years ago, it covers mainly heat transfers and specific heat, items of that sort correct?

One of the people that ran this event at nationals told me that he made the test straight out of his HS physics book.
The tough part was the last page which was written problems with a minimum and/ or too much information and required several manipulations to get the answer. In short, both knowledge and thinking power.

Is Thermochemistry a helpful background when dealing with this?

49ers wrote:Is Thermochemistry a helpful background when dealing with this?

Well...since this is mostly a lab event with some basic test stuff, doing anything stoichemistry/thermochemistry might be a bit overkill. Though I'm one to talk, I went all the way through the equilibrium constant and all the activation barriers.

foreverphysics wrote:

49ers wrote:Is Thermochemistry a helpful background when dealing with this?

Well...since this is mostly a lab event with some basic test stuff, doing anything stoichemistry/thermochemistry might be a bit overkill. Though I'm one to talk, I went all the way through the equilibrium constant and all the activation barriers.

I have seen some thermochemistry on tests before, although not as much as equilibrium and such.