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I heard a rumour that some team taped their egg in a cup to a straw hat
It was a sombrero, quiz. But yeah, that was my MS team's tech coach. If he had been an actual competitor he would've ranked 3rd to last, first tier. Considering how many teams had construction violations that might've warranted him a medal.
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We've got a new team member for Nationals--one of us will not be able to make it. Do you have any tips for him?
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Does anybody know of any good times that people are getting at whatever hight? I am personally dumbfounded as to whAt the competition will be like at states.i would also like to put out my concern for states: our school had egg drop done out of a second story window, and the 2 most prevailant problems were strong gusts of wind and the helicopter hitting the side of the building upon decent. In fact, one of the best looking devices there hit the side of the building and collapsed due to it very lightweight design. In my opinion many of the best helicopters will be extremly fragile and will weigh under 35 grams. If am correct, droppi g them the length of an arm off the side of the bleachers might result in even more device failures. Hopefully the states building has a better spot than out a window or off the side of bleachers.
I see rule 2c for HED as being up to so much interpretation that I don't know what to do. Because of this, my question is how will it be enforced at nats? For example, in one of our design ideas, the egg is resting inside a cylinder that has foam sides (the foam does give a bit when pinched, but not much). On the bottom is a piece of cardboard (not the corrugated type but rather the cereal box type). The egg would have room inside the cylinder to move around a bit, but not much. Also, the cardboard is at the bottom of the device rather than being above the bottom, and would therefore have no shock absorbing ability. So, if this can be pictured with the egg placed vertically inside the cylinder, will this follows rule 2c well enough to not get dropped into tier 3 or 4? I don't see an issue with the cardboard or the vertical placement of the egg. The foam cylinder is the main question since it gives a bit, although not much. The egg would just sit in the cylinder with maybe some tape attached to it to hold it in place and keep it from moving around as the device spins. Another option would be no tape and let it bounce around against the foam.
Since this is a nationals question, can someone from nationals please address it or pass along word that it is here, such as Chalker, Chalker 7, or Fleet 130? I've changed the post a bit after realizing that blue cobra was running the event in NY only and would not necessarily know about the national rules.
Rule 2c is a big issue to me, as pretty much any material that the egg touches or could touch inside the device could give a bit when pinched or pushed against, could therefore be accused of being a cushioning material by the event judge, and end up getting dropped into one of the lower tiers.
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I see rule 2c for HED as being up to so much interpretation that I don't know what to do. Because of this, my main question is how do you plan on enforcing it at nats? For example, in one of our design ideas, the egg is resting inside a cylinder that has foam sides (the foam does give a bit when pinched, but not much). On the bottom is a piece of cardboard (not the corrugated type but rather the cereal box type). The egg would have room inside the cylinder to move around a bit, but not much. Also, the cardboard is at the bottom of the device rather than being above the bottom, and would therefore have no shock absorbing ability. So, if you can picture this egg cradle with the egg positioned vertically inside the cylinder, to you think it follows rule 2c well enough to not get put in tier 3 or 4? I don't see an issue with the cardboard. The foam cylinder is the main question since it gives a bit. The egg would just sit in the cylinder with maybe a piece of tape over the top.
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You might want to check the rules again, the egg will be put in a sandwich bag and then put into a cup (what kind though is not specified, however all of this will be provided by the event supervisor, so it doesent matter). The cup may be suspended or fixed to the helicopter(not much about this is specified, and I am currently wondering if I may use string and tape to suspend the cup from the helicopter)
I heard that the NY competition uses cups and bags. This question is for the national rules on soinc.org. They don't mention either cups or bags at all, therefore the question.
i am trying to figure out the rules here, and after reading this scioly page... i am still slightly confused.
so does our device have to hold the cup that holds the egg or just an egg? how is our egg attached? is it supposed to be suspended from a string or tape on the bottom of our helicopter? or is it supposed to have a cup holder? if so, why do we have a string? or are we supposed to have a built-in cup? but doesn't that count as cushioning?
sorry if these are stupid questions, but im really confused...
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But yeah, that was my MS team's tech coach. If he had been an actual competitor he would've ranked 3rd to last, first tier. Considering how many teams had construction violations that might've warranted him a medal.
