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Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 2nd, 2010, 7:26 pm
by tmanneo
We used a water bottle and a CD and got 19th (our blade assembly was a quarter of an inch too big D:, but it got a least a full volt)

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 2nd, 2010, 8:03 pm
by ichaelm
Was that at your state competition?

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 6th, 2010, 3:28 pm
by tmanneo
19th was at states, yea

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 7th, 2010, 3:17 pm
by ichaelm
I just got the new rules! The major change is the addition of load resistors! So this time, we'll actually have to generate power, not just voltage!

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 7th, 2010, 9:08 pm
by fleet130
ichaelm wrote:The major change is the addition of load resistors!
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This may/may not have an effect on the turbine design.

Edited: Sep 22, 2010
.....Note: Changed multimeter in picture to computer (Current rules call for using a computer probe instead of a voltmeter/multimeter to take measurements.)

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 3:49 am
by Flavorflav
Fleet,

The rules state that supervisors should use computer probes, but in your illustration you show a multimeter. Am I right in thinking that it wouldn't make any difference which you use?

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 5:49 am
by ichaelm
It does. The rules also state that the average voltage over the testing period should be used for calculations. That's easy to do with a computer. But if you're using a multimeter, that's a pretty impossible task, so they let you use the maximum instead. But at any serious competition, they should have computer probes.

Also, just as an example of the design changes we'll have to make to adapt to driving a load: Last year they had a minimum diameter for the blades, since a smaller turbine would spin much faster and generate more voltage. This year, there is only a maximum diameter, because you need to take advantage of as much area as possible to generate as much power as possible. We will need to generate a certain amount of torque in order to get the blades to spin. The actual amount of torque will vary depending on the value of the load resistance and the specifications of the CD motor used. Once that torque is achieved, the blades will start to spin, and the faster they can spin while driving the load, the better. But it will be a whole lot different than spinning with no load. At least, assuming the load is high enough that it makes a significant difference. I should do some testing soon.

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 12:05 pm
by Flavorflav
Aha. Thank you, ichaelm, I had not noticed the scoring change.

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 9th, 2010, 8:33 pm
by fleet130
I forgot about the "computer probe" requirement in the current rules. In any event a computer probe can be viewed as just one form of multimeter. The point was to illustrate how the load resistor should be connected in the circuit.

Re: Wind Power C

Posted: September 10th, 2010, 12:05 pm
by Flavorflav
fleet130 wrote:I forgot about he "computer probe" requirement in the current rules. In any event a computer probe can be viewed as just one form of multimeter. The point was to illustrate how the load resistor should be connected in the circuit.
Yes, and I appreciate the illustration. I was just hoping that I could get away with using a multimeter for the testing setup, since I've never used the probes. Ah well.