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SOPomo wrote:

Unome wrote: Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year )
5. no idea

Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.

CVMSAvalacheStudent wrote:

SOPomo wrote:

Unome wrote: Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year )
5. no idea

Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.

I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.

Unome wrote:

CVMSAvalacheStudent wrote:

SOPomo wrote:
Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.

I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.

I really wouldn't rank Cornell anywhere near MIT in terms of competitiveness; just take a look at the teams competing.

Unome wrote:

CVMSAvalacheStudent wrote:

SOPomo wrote:
Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.

I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.

I really wouldn't rank Cornell anywhere near MIT in terms of competitiveness; just take a look at the teams competing.

Unome wrote:I'm just going to list them in tiers, since sometimes it's really hard to distinguish.

Div C:
1. MIT (by a lot)
2. Wright State (they wouldn't have been here last year, MIT stole their thunder), Golden Gate
3. Mira Loma, Westlake, Mentor, Troy, Cornell
4. UPenn, Solon, Princeton, Rice (though the TX teams were very split), Valley Forge
5. idk maybe Boyceville, depends how the area's teams are doing. Possibly Kenston and WL-S too. A few IL and MI tournaments could be put here, but I don't know enough about those areas.

If you hadn't already heard, Twin Tiers is basically dead.

Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year )
5. no idea

Edit: Agree with mostly everything East says above

jakool6 wrote:

Unome wrote:I'm just going to list them in tiers, since sometimes it's really hard to distinguish.

Div C:
1. MIT (by a lot)
2. Wright State (they wouldn't have been here last year, MIT stole their thunder), Golden Gate
3. Mira Loma, Westlake, Mentor, Troy, Cornell
4. UPenn, Solon, Princeton, Rice (though the TX teams were very split), Valley Forge
5. idk maybe Boyceville, depends how the area's teams are doing. Possibly Kenston and WL-S too. A few IL and MI tournaments could be put here, but I don't know enough about those areas.

If you hadn't already heard, Twin Tiers is basically dead.

Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year )
5. no idea

Edit: Agree with mostly everything East says above

I dunno if Mentor will be AS competitive as Westlake.

Unome wrote: I put it even based on Rustin and F-M, but I guess we'll see whether those two are strong enough this year to make it even.

jakool6 wrote:

Unome wrote: I put it even based on Rustin and F-M, but I guess we'll see whether those two are strong enough this year to make it even.

I'm worried the most about Chardon.