Elevated Bridge B/C

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blue cobra wrote:Will the rules stay similar for next year? I'm on this event, but I do nothing. My partner has his heart set on an arch, which he seems close to perfecting, but I'd like to play with simpler designs over the summer. The rules should stay similar enough that this won't be a waste of wood, eh?
the rules will probably change next year(saying that if bridge is an event next year which i think it will be)
Building is never a waste of wood because you get experience and know how much glue to use, size of wood, etc. you can also test if an arch is indeed better than a non arched bridge.

also on how fast to load, i usually just load fast with my partner, but the day of competition, my partner never showed up so i had to go myself. although the weight goes to one point, if you only load on lets say the left half of the bucket, the loading block might somehow slip a mm to the left, and make it weaker or something(just saying!)
Yes the rules such as the bridge length may change but you still get experience from building.

They say that the more time you use the longer the bridge is under stress, which is bad. When i load i just try to put all the sand in the middle, it will even out by itself on each side. So it will form like a cone. I don't belive that it really matters if you put more on one side though, since the weight goes to one point. As long as the rod/chain that goes down to the bucket is vertical, then it's fine. At the NY state competition my MS team said that they weren't used to the hopper system and didnt' position the bridge correctly and the BB's went to one side of the bucket, which they thought was bad. I belive it didnt' have any effect. the handle of the bucket was rmade ope so the chain/rod could rotate to maintiain the vertical position.
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blue cobra wrote:Will the rules stay similar for next year? I'm on this event, but I do nothing. My partner has his heart set on an arch, which he seems close to perfecting, but I'd like to play with simpler designs over the summer. The rules should stay similar enough that this won't be a waste of wood, eh?
Nothing drastic should change, so if you build and find a good concept it was well worth the time, even if you have to make minor adjustments once rules come out.
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gyourkoshaven wrote:
blue cobra wrote:Will the rules stay similar for next year? I'm on this event, but I do nothing. My partner has his heart set on an arch, which he seems close to perfecting, but I'd like to play with simpler designs over the summer. The rules should stay similar enough that this won't be a waste of wood, eh?
Nothing drastic should change, so if you build and find a good concept it was well worth the time, even if you have to make minor adjustments once rules come out.
i'd think it would be quite hard to change the rules
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fmtiger124 wrote:
gyourkoshaven wrote:
blue cobra wrote:Will the rules stay similar for next year? I'm on this event, but I do nothing. My partner has his heart set on an arch, which he seems close to perfecting, but I'd like to play with simpler designs over the summer. The rules should stay similar enough that this won't be a waste of wood, eh?
Nothing drastic should change, so if you build and find a good concept it was well worth the time, even if you have to make minor adjustments once rules come out.
i'd think it would be quite hard to change the rules

Example: clearance must be 8cm.

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i meant dirastically change the rules not something simple
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The idea of the rules probably won't change, just the dimensions. Unless of course they decide to do the Triple Load.
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What do you consider drastic fm? i consider drastic as changing "bridge" to "tower"

dimensions are pretty much the only things they can change i think. of course there is the triple load idea, which sounds pretty beastly. i wouldnt mind that.
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jazzy009 wrote:What do you consider drastic fm? i consider drastic as changing "bridge" to "tower"

dimensions are pretty much the only things they can change i think. of course there is the triple load idea, which sounds pretty beastly. i wouldnt mind that.
well, limit wood sizes, make the bridge sink below the table(i dont know what to call it) instead of elevated, force teams to predict the weight it will hold(similar to NY's car of tomorrow with predicting speed) and as you said making it normal bridges or towers or this would be kind of odd but force teams to use something other than wood--metal, plastic, junk etc--or at least forbid balsa wood
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fmtiger124 wrote:
jazzy009 wrote:What do you consider drastic fm? i consider drastic as changing "bridge" to "tower"

dimensions are pretty much the only things they can change i think. of course there is the triple load idea, which sounds pretty beastly. i wouldnt mind that.
well, limit wood sizes, make the bridge sink below the table(i dont know what to call it) instead of elevated, force teams to predict the weight it will hold(similar to NY's car of tomorrow with predicting speed) and as you said making it normal bridges or towers or this would be kind of odd but force teams to use something other than wood--metal, plastic, junk etc--or at least forbid balsa wood
I think that they have to keep wood as part of this. That's what makes these kind of events unique.
jazzy009 wrote:What do you consider drastic fm? i consider drastic as changing "bridge" to "tower"

dimensions are pretty much the only things they can change i think. of course there is the triple load idea, which sounds pretty beastly. i wouldnt mind that.
I also wouldn't mind the triple load. It sounds like a fun challenge to undertake. I actually hope that they do create that as a factor for next year.
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croman74 wrote:
fmtiger124 wrote:
jazzy009 wrote:What do you consider drastic fm? i consider drastic as changing "bridge" to "tower"

dimensions are pretty much the only things they can change i think. of course there is the triple load idea, which sounds pretty beastly. i wouldnt mind that.
well, limit wood sizes, make the bridge sink below the table(i dont know what to call it) instead of elevated, force teams to predict the weight it will hold(similar to NY's car of tomorrow with predicting speed) and as you said making it normal bridges or towers or this would be kind of odd but force teams to use something other than wood--metal, plastic, junk etc--or at least forbid balsa wood
I think that they have to keep wood as part of this. That's what makes these kind of events unique.
jazzy009 wrote:What do you consider drastic fm? i consider drastic as changing "bridge" to "tower"

dimensions are pretty much the only things they can change i think. of course there is the triple load idea, which sounds pretty beastly. i wouldnt mind that.
I also wouldn't mind the triple load. It sounds like a fun challenge to undertake. I actually hope that they do create that as a factor for next year.
yeah but it would be cool to see what teams come up with when not using wood
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