I can't vouch for vortexx, but I also get around 30ish sec and near-perfect ratio scores (~14.7/15 for each). I hang mass A on a fixed point, then move mass B to find the point where it's in equilibrium. Then take A off and put B on the fixed point and put C onto the lever and find equilibrium. See Hereas1092 wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 7:04 pmIs your machine built to have one mass fixed permanently? Because my design right now has a fixed place for the lighter mass, but I think it would be more efficient to have mass B fixed permanently, so I take on average 1:30 for time, with 29+ ratio score. Any help would be appreciated. Like how did you build your device bc 40 seconds seems close to impossible for me.
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Hi! This might be a dumb question, but in rule 3a it says:
The device must be a class 1 lever with a single beam no longer than 80.0 cm.
I used a meter stick as my lever, and that is 100cm, so do I have to cut 20 cm off?
The device must be a class 1 lever with a single beam no longer than 80.0 cm.
I used a meter stick as my lever, and that is 100cm, so do I have to cut 20 cm off?
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The video shows that one mass does not get replaced at all (i'm assuming it's mass B since you have to do A:B and B:C). How do you get 30 seconds while moving all 3 masses?CPScienceDude wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 7:31 pmI can't vouch for vortexx, but I also get around 30ish sec and near-perfect ratio scores (~14.7/15 for each). I hang mass A on a fixed point, then move mass B to find the point where it's in equilibrium. Then take A off and put B on the fixed point and put C onto the lever and find equilibrium. See Hereas1092 wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 7:04 pmIs your machine built to have one mass fixed permanently? Because my design right now has a fixed place for the lighter mass, but I think it would be more efficient to have mass B fixed permanently, so I take on average 1:30 for time, with 29+ ratio score. Any help would be appreciated. Like how did you build your device bc 40 seconds seems close to impossible for me.
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Oops, bad example. But a similar idea. Ig I'm just fast? I have my partner calculate the ratios. So maybe that helps.as1092 wrote: ↑February 21st, 2020, 12:15 pmThe video shows that one mass does not get replaced at all (i'm assuming it's mass B since you have to do A:B and B:C). How do you get 30 seconds while moving all 3 masses?CPScienceDude wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 7:31 pmI can't vouch for vortexx, but I also get around 30ish sec and near-perfect ratio scores (~14.7/15 for each). I hang mass A on a fixed point, then move mass B to find the point where it's in equilibrium. Then take A off and put B on the fixed point and put C onto the lever and find equilibrium. See Hereas1092 wrote: ↑February 20th, 2020, 7:04 pm
Is your machine built to have one mass fixed permanently? Because my design right now has a fixed place for the lighter mass, but I think it would be more efficient to have mass B fixed permanently, so I take on average 1:30 for time, with 29+ ratio score. Any help would be appreciated. Like how did you build your device bc 40 seconds seems close to impossible for me.
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For those wanting an example graph, here's a link to one: https://www.sciencenc.com/wp-content/up ... -Graph.pdf
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Hi! My partner and I aren't sure how to solve this kind of problem:
What effort force is required in order to keep the system in equilibrium. Assume that the system is ideal.
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You would have to find the amount of force the load exerts on the system, then divide that by the system's IMA.
Ex: There is a mass of 10.0 kg hanging off of one end of a class 1 lever. The side the mass is hanging on is 1.0m long from the fulcrum and the other arm is 4.0m long.
1. Multiply 10 x 9.8 to get the force it exerts. =98N
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3. Divide the force by the IMA: 98N/4 = 24.5N (25 with SD's)
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I'd love to add, but my machine is locked up at school... plus I don't think it qualifies as best...MoMoney$$$;)0) wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2020, 10:45 am Come on people we need to add to the best of 2020
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