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Re: Indiana 2018

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SciNerd42 wrote:Does anyone have the score sheet from PU Northwest/Whiting, or the team scores?
Unfortunately, some Indiana competitions are not terribly great at releasing team scores. Additionally, unless some things have changed dramatically in the time that I've been a scioly grad, Whiting hasn't ever publicly released its materials (i.e. schedules, homerooms, results) for its own invitational, let alone might they do the same for scores for that Regional Tournament.
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Sequenced wrote:Division B:
1. TJ
2. Wilbur Wright
3. Raymond Park
4. Chesterton
5. Tri-North

Division C:
1. Munster/Carmel
2. Munster/Carmel
3. Bloomington North
4. Whiting
5. Lake Central

These are my predictions. I think it could go either way for division C. I think Wilbur Wright will do pretty good this year in division B.
I think WW will get first this year. I heard they're putting in some more effort this year.
I don't think you can count Bloomington South out of the top five, and I think that LC will probably beat Whiting too.
Ye, Bloomington South has performed better than Bloomington North at State for the past few years, but we'll see if they can keep that up since North did better at Regionals than South. Lake Central has gotten much stronger in the past couple years as well, I wouldn't be surprised to see them take third again this year, but I doubt they'll be cracking the top 2 anytime soon. Carmel has a good stab at getting back at Munster this year, but we'll have to see about that since both have shown pretty strong results, albeit in different competitions this year. I actually found it somewhat interesting that State IS the first time that those two will be going head-to-head against each other at all. Should be quite the battle to watch from a Division D perspective.
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Re: Indiana 2018

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I think those predictions are pretty accurate
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pikachu4919 wrote:
SciNerd42 wrote:Does anyone have the score sheet from PU Northwest/Whiting, or the team scores?
Unfortunately, some Indiana competitions are not terribly great at releasing team scores. Additionally, unless some things have changed dramatically in the time that I've been a scioly grad, Whiting hasn't ever publicly released its materials (i.e. schedules, homerooms, results) for its own invitational, let alone might they do the same for scores for that Regional Tournament.
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I think WW will get first this year. I heard they're putting in some more effort this year.
I don't think you can count Bloomington South out of the top five, and I think that LC will probably beat Whiting too.
Ye, Bloomington South has performed better than Bloomington North at State for the past few years, but we'll see if they can keep that up since North did better at Regionals than South. Lake Central has gotten much stronger in the past couple years as well, I wouldn't be surprised to see them take third again this year, but I doubt they'll be cracking the top 2 anytime soon. Carmel has a good stab at getting back at Munster this year, but we'll have to see about that since both have shown pretty strong results, albeit in different competitions this year. I actually found it somewhat interesting that State IS the first time that those two will be going head-to-head against each other at all. Should be quite the battle to watch from a Division D perspective.
I think it's cute that you think Carmel has a chance at beating Munster this year. Munster is the equivalent of TJ in Div C, placing 6th at Nationals (overall) at its best, where Carmel's best is not even close. Additionally, Munster has dominated regionals every year so I wish Carmel luck. I think that post may have been slightly biased based on your origins. I love the enthusiasm however.
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Re: Indiana 2018

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hmma wrote:
pikachu4919 wrote:
SciNerd42 wrote:Does anyone have the score sheet from PU Northwest/Whiting, or the team scores?
Unfortunately, some Indiana competitions are not terribly great at releasing team scores. Additionally, unless some things have changed dramatically in the time that I've been a scioly grad, Whiting hasn't ever publicly released its materials (i.e. schedules, homerooms, results) for its own invitational, let alone might they do the same for scores for that Regional Tournament.
hippo9 wrote: I don't think you can count Bloomington South out of the top five, and I think that LC will probably beat Whiting too.
Ye, Bloomington South has performed better than Bloomington North at State for the past few years, but we'll see if they can keep that up since North did better at Regionals than South. Lake Central has gotten much stronger in the past couple years as well, I wouldn't be surprised to see them take third again this year, but I doubt they'll be cracking the top 2 anytime soon. Carmel has a good stab at getting back at Munster this year, but we'll have to see about that since both have shown pretty strong results, albeit in different competitions this year. I actually found it somewhat interesting that State IS the first time that those two will be going head-to-head against each other at all. Should be quite the battle to watch from a Division D perspective.
I think it's cute that you think Carmel has a chance at beating Munster this year. Munster is the equivalent of TJ in Div C, placing 6th at Nationals (overall) at its best, where Carmel's best is not even close. Additionally, Munster has dominated regionals every year so I wish Carmel luck. I think that post may have been slightly biased based on your origins. I love the enthusiasm however.
I believe Hmma brings up a valid point. Munster has been very dominant force in division C and I don't think any specific team has a chance of beating them.
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Sequence wrote:
hmma wrote: I think it's cute that you think Carmel has a chance at beating Munster this year. Munster is the equivalent of TJ in Div C, placing 6th at Nationals (overall) at its best, where Carmel's best is not even close. Additionally, Munster has dominated regionals every year so I wish Carmel luck. I think that post may have been slightly biased based on your origins. I love the enthusiasm however.
I believe Hmma brings up a valid point. Munster has been very dominant force in division C and I don't think any specific team has a chance of beating them.
Carmel beat Munster for the 2016 Nationals bid so you can't say that Munster is "completely dominant" with regards to states seeing as how recent that was. Additionally, sure pikachu might want her team to do well, but she also has alot of insight as to how her team is functioning internally in addition to their competition results and she has alot of experience/knowledge about scioly after so many years of involvement. Users on here are always pretty unbiased when it comes to predicting their own teams because they genuinely know where they fall. Based on the results I have looked at within Indiana, I would agree that Carmel certainly has a significant chance of overthrowing Munster once more.
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windu34 wrote:
Sequence wrote:
hmma wrote: I think it's cute that you think Carmel has a chance at beating Munster this year. Munster is the equivalent of TJ in Div C, placing 6th at Nationals (overall) at its best, where Carmel's best is not even close. Additionally, Munster has dominated regionals every year so I wish Carmel luck. I think that post may have been slightly biased based on your origins. I love the enthusiasm however.
I believe Hmma brings up a valid point. Munster has been very dominant force in division C and I don't think any specific team has a chance of beating them.
Carmel beat Munster for the 2016 Nationals bid so you can't say that Munster is "completely dominant" with regards to states seeing as how recent that was. Additionally, sure pikachu might want her team to do well, but she also has alot of insight as to how her team is functioning internally in addition to their competition results and she has alot of experience/knowledge about scioly after so many years of involvement. Users on here are always pretty unbiased when it comes to predicting their own teams because they genuinely know where they fall. Based on the results I have looked at within Indiana, I would agree that Carmel certainly has a significant chance of overthrowing Munster once more.
I wouldn't be sure of that... Carmel beat Munster once before and that's due to the fact that they poached Munster's coach that year... So I would be very surprised if they overthrew Munster again.
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Carmel is to RP as Munster is to TJ. Both have outside chances of beating the dominant force, though unlikely.
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Slowwww down with the Munster - TJ comparisons. Munster has won Indiana 4 times. TJ has won Indiana 25 times. Munster may be strong, but aside from their 6th place year, their highest nationals placing is 15th, and they haven't built up nearly the same legacy of dominance quite yet.
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In 2018, I think Munster and tj have the same chances
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Re: Indiana 2018

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hmma wrote:
windu34 wrote:
Sequence wrote:
I believe Hmma brings up a valid point. Munster has been very dominant force in division C and I don't think any specific team has a chance of beating them.
Carmel beat Munster for the 2016 Nationals bid so you can't say that Munster is "completely dominant" with regards to states seeing as how recent that was. Additionally, sure pikachu might want her team to do well, but she also has alot of insight as to how her team is functioning internally in addition to their competition results and she has alot of experience/knowledge about scioly after so many years of involvement. Users on here are always pretty unbiased when it comes to predicting their own teams because they genuinely know where they fall. Based on the results I have looked at within Indiana, I would agree that Carmel certainly has a significant chance of overthrowing Munster once more.
I wouldn't be sure of that... Carmel beat Munster once before and that's due to the fact that they poached Munster's coach that year... So I would be very surprised if they overthrew Munster again.
First of all, we didn’t intentionally ‘poach’ their coach. Some things happened, and he just happened to get hired at Carmel for that year. Of course, he joined our SciOly program, but even with the extra insight he provided us while he was here, it didn’t change anything at all about how our team was run. In fact, Munster and Carmel operate entirely differently, as Carmel is a heavily student-driven team while Munster is a heavily coach-driven team. If anything, the Munster coach that moved to Carmel for a year felt a little weirded out being on our team because of the fact that we, the students, had more control over our team operations than he did (he might correct me if he pops up onto this thread and decides that I’m wrong and decides to make a reply back to what I said, but that’s kind of the vibe I personally got a little). Although Munster has done very very well at State, I as well still wouldn’t put them in the same category of dominance as TJ, who has won many more State titles over the 30 years that SciOly has existed, just yet. Their longest winning streak thus far is 3. They didn’t even rise to where they are now until 2013, which is REALLY recent compared to TJ. If they’re going to want to establish themselves as a powerhouse, it’s gonna take several more years of winning for that to happen. And for the record, if you like going off of best ever finishes, Carmel’s best placement at nationals is 9th, which, although not as impressive as 6th, isn’t super far off from it :P
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