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Hypothetical tower
Okay, this is not completely serious but I was wondering
Would it be possible to make like a 30 cm x 6cm x 20 cm base for a tower (length, width, height) and then a 6 cm x 6cm x 30 cm chimney....I know that this is not practical but is it allowed...
(It could also technically be practical because if you use 1/16 wood it could be 2ish grams. with the bonus which is like 2500 points right there and then since they are right angles, it could hold a little bit)
So, is this allowed?
Would it be possible to make like a 30 cm x 6cm x 20 cm base for a tower (length, width, height) and then a 6 cm x 6cm x 30 cm chimney....I know that this is not practical but is it allowed...
(It could also technically be practical because if you use 1/16 wood it could be 2ish grams. with the bonus which is like 2500 points right there and then since they are right angles, it could hold a little bit)
So, is this allowed?
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Re: Hypothetical tower
What would make it not allowed? As far as I can tell, it fits Div B parameters.WhatScience? wrote:Okay, this is not completely serious but I was wondering
Would it be possible to make like a 30 cm x 6cm x 20 cm base for a tower (length, width, height) and then a 6 cm x 6cm x 30 cm chimney....I know that this is not practical but is it allowed...
(It could also technically be practical because if you use 1/16 wood it could be 2ish grams. with the bonus which is like 2500 points right there and then since they are right angles, it could hold a little bit)
So, is this allowed?
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Gr8...feel like taking that to show my coach and being like, this is what we're taking to states....Unome wrote:What would make it not allowed? As far as I can tell, it fits Div B parameters.WhatScience? wrote:Okay, this is not completely serious but I was wondering
Would it be possible to make like a 30 cm x 6cm x 20 cm base for a tower (length, width, height) and then a 6 cm x 6cm x 30 cm chimney....I know that this is not practical but is it allowed...
(It could also technically be practical because if you use 1/16 wood it could be 2ish grams. with the bonus which is like 2500 points right there and then since they are right angles, it could hold a little bit)
So, is this allowed?
2500ish is a good score, right?
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Re: Hypothetical tower
There has been pretty extensive discussion of the...."ultra light" approach you're talking about; you might want to review it. To be scored (as opposed to being tiered down (as in "did not support load block assembly"), it will have to carry load block, eyebolt/nut/washer, chain, and bucket.WhatScience? wrote:Gr8...feel like taking that to show my coach and being like, this is what we're taking to states....Unome wrote:What would make it not allowed? As far as I can tell, it fits Div B parameters.WhatScience? wrote:Okay, this is not completely serious but I was wondering
Would it be possible to make like a 30 cm x 6cm x 20 cm base for a tower (length, width, height) and then a 6 cm x 6cm x 30 cm chimney....I know that this is not practical but is it allowed...
(It could also technically be practical because if you use 1/16 wood it could be 2ish grams. with the bonus which is like 2500 points right there and then since they are right angles, it could hold a little bit)
So, is this allowed?
2500ish is a good score, right?
You would have a much better chance of pulling that off with 1) a square base (w/ legs a hair over 21cm apart at base- meeting circle bonus), and 2) a base section 25cm high rather than the 20 you indicate. You're shooting yourself in the foot going with narrow rectangular base, and lower base height.
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Re: Hypothetical tower
Loading Block = Chain and BlockWhatScience? wrote:Okay, this is not completely serious but I was wondering
Would it be possible to make like a 30 cm x 6cm x 20 cm base for a tower (length, width, height) and then a 6 cm x 6cm x 30 cm chimney....I know that this is not practical but is it allowed...
(It could also technically be practical because if you use 1/16 wood it could be 2ish grams. with the bonus which is like 2500 points right there and then since they are right angles, it could hold a little bit)
So, is this allowed?
Block = .4kg Chain = .2 kg
Tried it, didnt work. Highest hit 1800
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Re: Hypothetical tower
Somebody I know built a tower:
1.5grams, with ONLY 3/32 columns and stuff to connect it (squares on the top, middle, bottom. There were no bracings.
It held the loading block, but of course it didn't hold the bucket, which i think is 1 (maybe 2) kg.
There's no its going to work. Even if it does work, all the other teams who get real 3k towers are gonna hate you lol
1.5grams, with ONLY 3/32 columns and stuff to connect it (squares on the top, middle, bottom. There were no bracings.
It held the loading block, but of course it didn't hold the bucket, which i think is 1 (maybe 2) kg.
There's no its going to work. Even if it does work, all the other teams who get real 3k towers are gonna hate you lol
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This might be why it didn't work. 1/64" or so bracings may have helped quite a bit.AnonymousStudier wrote:There were no bracings.
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This might be why it didn't work. 1/32" or so bracings may have helped quite a bit.AnonymousStudier wrote:There were no bracings.
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Re: Hypothetical tower
reported.tHeWeY69 wrote:I just made a 1.01 gram tower that holds around 800-1000 grams and gets the base bonus. It is a very simple design that takes about 25-45 minutes to build so I made about 6. I will sell they design for $35 and the tower for $70.
you're commercializing on this? aren't you ashamed?
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Re: Hypothetical tower
To be really fair, all this "hypothetical tower" stuff is pointless and really annoying.
Imagine going to nats, having a legit (not "hypothetical") tower weighing 4 grams and you're confident it'll hold full weight. That's 3750 efficiency.
But then this random guy from this random school you haven't heard from comes along. it's a 1.3 gram tower, only holding the bucket and the loading block. It gets the bonus.
Results come out. The team is from some REALLY sketchy school that you haven't even heard of. They get 1st place, and you get second. You're triggered. You think, "How the heck did this happen???"
Then the real results come out with all the weights and the checklists and stuff of all the teams. You realize that they "cheated".
How mad would you be?
Imagine going to nats, having a legit (not "hypothetical") tower weighing 4 grams and you're confident it'll hold full weight. That's 3750 efficiency.
But then this random guy from this random school you haven't heard from comes along. it's a 1.3 gram tower, only holding the bucket and the loading block. It gets the bonus.
Results come out. The team is from some REALLY sketchy school that you haven't even heard of. They get 1st place, and you get second. You're triggered. You think, "How the heck did this happen???"
Then the real results come out with all the weights and the checklists and stuff of all the teams. You realize that they "cheated".
How mad would you be?
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