2018 National Tournament: Colorado State University

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fanjiatian wrote:Also don't forget that universities like MIT have finals around the same time as Nats. It's already difficult enough (in general) to get administrative permission for running a college invitational during a relatively not busy time of year (winter break / the weeks immediately afterward). Universities tend to not like having tons of young kids running around campus ;)
Interestingly enough, Cornell's National Tournament will be 2 weeks later than normal, possibly due to this reason.
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Does anyone know if the annoying event conflicts on the nationals schedule will change at all? (i.e. Dynamic x Rocks)
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Raven wrote:Does anyone know if the annoying event conflicts on the nationals schedule will change at all? (i.e. Dynamic x Rocks)
It's technically possible, though highly unlikely.
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John Richardsim wrote:
Raven wrote:Does anyone know if the annoying event conflicts on the nationals schedule will change at all? (i.e. Dynamic x Rocks)
It's technically possible, though highly unlikely.
Correct, I can't recall us ever changing the national schedule after we published it in the rules.

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whythelongface wrote: I mean, it seems that Cornell has already managed to make this happen, so I still have high hopes.
Yep, they had a very dedicated group of students that was able to team up with some dedicated staff and convince the administration.
Unome wrote: Even so, I doubt Stanford has the capacity to host Nationals (and MIT may not have sufficient capacity for awards). I'm pretty sure a Caltech bid has been deferred in the past for space concerns, and they have a significantly more established organization than either of those two.

Edit: I guess if Juniata could do it Stanford could, but things have become larger since 2004 (and Juniata was only ever a last-minute backup anyway).
We haven't really expanded the size of the tournament in the past 2 decades. Many universities would be more than capable of hosting it. Stanford has a student population of ~16K and a campus that is ~8K acres, which is pretty comparable to Wright State (~17K, ~700 acres). MIT would likely have a space issue though, as it only has ~11K students on ~160 acres).

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chalker wrote:
Unome wrote: Even so, I doubt Stanford has the capacity to host Nationals (and MIT may not have sufficient capacity for awards). I'm pretty sure a Caltech bid has been deferred in the past for space concerns, and they have a significantly more established organization than either of those two.

Edit: I guess if Juniata could do it Stanford could, but things have become larger since 2004 (and Juniata was only ever a last-minute backup anyway).
We haven't really expanded the size of the tournament in the past 2 decades. Many universities would be more than capable of hosting it. Stanford has a student population of ~16K and a campus that is ~8K acres, which is pretty comparable to Wright State (~17K, ~700 acres). MIT would likely have a space issue though, as it only has ~11K students on ~160 acres).
Hm, not sure why I thought Stanford was so small...
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Unome wrote:
Unome wrote: Even so, I doubt Stanford has the capacity to host Nationals (and MIT may not have sufficient capacity for awards). I'm pretty sure a Caltech bid has been deferred in the past for space concerns, and they have a significantly more established organization than either of those two.

Edit: I guess if Juniata could do it Stanford could, but things have become larger since 2004 (and Juniata was only ever a last-minute backup anyway).
We haven't really expanded the size of the tournament in the past 2 decades. Many universities would be more than capable of hosting it. Stanford has a student population of ~16K and a campus that is ~8K acres, which is pretty comparable to Wright State (~17K, ~700 acres). MIT would likely have a space issue though, as it only has ~11K students on ~160 acres).
Hm, not sure why I thought Stanford was so small...[/quote]

I think it's because their actual buildings and classrooms are in a more compact area so the core campus seems smaller, while the university owns a ton of land that's mostly unused save for the Stanford Dish.
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Unome wrote:
whythelongface wrote:
chalker wrote:
National Tournaments require a SIGNIFICANT commitment of resources from the host university. It's not like the National Science Olympiad office goes around asking universities to host the event. Rather, universities generally have to submit a proposal to NSO, which means that the highest level of the university administration needs to be involved (typically the president's office). There needs to be a group of extremely committed local folks that can get the ear of the administration to make this happen. It would be wonderful if that would eventually happen at MIT or Stanford.
I mean, it seems that Cornell has already managed to make this happen, so I still have high hopes.
Even so, I doubt Stanford has the capacity to host Nationals (and MIT may not have sufficient capacity for awards). I'm pretty sure a Caltech bid has been deferred in the past for space concerns, and they have a significantly more established organization than either of those two.

Edit: I guess if Juniata could do it Stanford could, but things have become larger since 2004 (and Juniata was only ever a last-minute backup anyway).
Stanford has one of the largest campuses.
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Ap micro is the Friday of nationals I think. If we miss it do we just have so make up?
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Ashernoel wrote:Ap micro is the Friday of nationals I think. If we miss it do we just have so make up?
There are make ups for AP exams at the end of the month. And there's also make ups for the make ups.
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