New York 2017

[Clematis]

Adding to the fixed team vs swapping out based on results discussion, I'm a fan of having one fixed team throughout the season. While I am of the opinion that inter-team competition for the primary team spots will overall make members try harder, resulting in better results, there's a certain connection that comes from bonding with members of a set team. Even if you don't do well, you had a great time doing it with your friends. As for motivation, going from a middle school that didn't have a fixed team from the beginning to a high school that does, I can say that the perspective shifts from being motivated to want to win for yourself to being motivated to want to win for your team and friends because they're great people that deserve it.

[Alex-RCHS]

It seems to me that this debate depends on school culture.

Mix-and-match seems to be a better strategy if:
- your school has a large pool of talented, dedicated students
- your (potential) team has not bonded well yet, and will not object as much to being switched around
- your students are more individually motivated than team-motivated

And keeping one team of 15 seems better if the opposite of those are true.

I think that as long as you give young students a chance to make the states/nationals team later on if they do not in their first or second years of school then it is not cutthroat at all.

Also, I do think that experienced team members should be given the benefit of the doubt if they mess up in an event once or twice, as long as it's not due to lack of effort.

[chaguy2457]

Does anyone have the results for Adirondack, Capital, and Lower Hudson? Thanks!

EDIT: Division C, obviously

[cmousseau]

Adirondack Division C results from 2/4 (Scores are for 20 events)

Plattsburgh Orange 31
Lake Placid Blue Bombers A 70
Potsdam Sandstoners 103
Chateaugay Bulldogs 104
Plattsburgh Black 112
Canton Golden Bears 121
Thousand Islands Vikings 121
Carthage Comets 127
Ogdensburg Blue Devils 139
Lake Placid Blue Bombers B 174

Its a small region, Plattsburgh and Lake Placid qualified for the state tournament.

[CNYSciOlyGuy]

Does anyone have a list of all the teams that qualified for C division states?

[gneissisnice]

Just wanted to point out that HHE has been in the top five for four of the last five years and the top ten six of the last eight. Both of the misses were 11th place, so I'm not sure HHE is such a dark horse for top ten. Everybody likes to talk about momentum, but reversion to the mean is more common statistically.

Plus, I'm teaching there now and I'm assistant coach to the team, so there's that

[Flavorflav]

Does anyone have a list of all the teams that qualified for C division states?

Here: http://www.newyorkscioly.org/wp-content ... es-pdf.pdf

[Sneaky]

Do you guys think FM has a chance of going to nationals after the results from UPenn?
https://www.ezratech.us/competition/uni ... -c/results

[Adi1008]

Do you guys think FM has a chance of going to nationals after the results from UPenn?
https://www.ezratech.us/competition/uni ... -c/results

Indubitably

[gneissisnice]

Do you guys think FM has a chance of going to nationals after the results from UPenn?
https://www.ezratech.us/competition/uni ... -c/results

Possibly, but those scores aren't really anything to write home about. It looks like the competition was fierce, which is definitely a big part of it, but a score of 194 is meh. Looks like the next NY team was Ward Melville and they were 3 places away with only a 20 point difference, which is a small enough gap that anything could happen at states. Even just one place better in each event would have put WM ahead of them.

So it's not unlikely, but I don't think the results shed a ton of light on possible States performance.