New York 2013

[smartypants01]

I have noticed that Gelinas is starting to lose its thunder. Two years ago, Gelinas placed 3rd at nationals. The past two years, Gelinas has come in 2nd at states, though not by much. However, I feel that Eagle Hill and Gelinas will go to nationals again because the difference between 2nd and 3rd place last year was over 150. As for Division C, I have no idea what will happen, as I am in B, but FM will probably win again.

[thehydrogenpoptart]

I've heard that Weber lost a coach this year, so maybe there will be a new champion in Western Long Island? Wisdom Lane perhaps?
Even though SciOly hasn't even started this year, I really think our team this year can make states and crack the top 10. We placed 16th at states last year, with a team that was 80% 7th graders. Now this year, all those 7th graders are 8th graders...I CAN'T WAIT FOR SCIOLY TO START!

A bit more info...this year really means a lot for me. In 2011 I joined a Scioly team that had not made states since 2004. And in 2011 we made states as the last qualifying spot for our region. Then last year, we made states and got 4th in regionals. I know this doesn't sound like much...but this year is kind of our school's last chance for everything for a while, since when us 8th graders leave this year there really won't be anyone to take the reins since no new people are really joining. Sorry if I'm being overdramatic or egotistical...it's just that, this year SciOly is going to mean so much for our team.

And lol smartypants I can't believe someone noticed our school XD But then again we were being really loud and annoying and throwing rocks off the hill...

[silverheart7]

I have noticed that Gelinas is starting to lose its thunder. Two years ago, Gelinas placed 3rd at nationals. The past two years, Gelinas has come in 2nd at states, though not by much. However, I feel that Eagle Hill and Gelinas will go to nationals again because the difference between 2nd and 3rd place last year was over 150. As for Division C, I have no idea what will happen, as I am in B, but FM will probably win again.

GELINAS WILL NEVER LOSE IT'S THUNDER. WE ARE THUNDERLICIOUS AND COMING BACK STRONGER THAN EVER. Sorry, just needed an excuse to say thunderlicious. And it might not be that we're losing skills, it just might be the competition is getting tougher.

[smartypants01]

Yeah sorry for trampling on Gelinas, but I do agree that the comptetition is getting harder. There are some great schools out there that are rising.

[60004]

Totally agree, the competition ramps up every year. Stuff we built a few years ago we look at now and can't believe we ever took it to a competition! That Gelinas third place was a phenomenal achievement; competition at nats is so tough that to do that consistently year after year is unlikely for most teams. Obviously some teams manage it, and it's really remarkable and impressive. Gelinas could certainly do it again--heck, they even have team members that say "thunderlicious"!

[foreverphysics]

I'm sorry for butting in, but the Alabama forums are dead boring and, well, dead. I talk to some New Yorkers sometimes, and this is what I see (for C Division, at least).


Syosset has raised one place each year for three years. 2010, they made 5th, 2011--4th, and 2012--3rd. Interesting to note--will they make second this year and keep the pattern going?

Also, I see that the top five are all somewhat constant, not changing much at all (except for Spackenkill). But 6-10 seems to be in flux quite a bit, other than Brighton.

Concerning the top five, FM looks really set. It kinda just looks like they will win again this year. But for second place? Ward Melville won by 33 points last year and 19 points the year before that--that looks like they are set. But Syosset beat Columbia by 78 points two years ago, and only 1 point last year. Going by that, it seems very possible that WM might suffer an upset this year by either of those teams.

Looking at the building event results, it looks like every top ten team EXCEPT for Syosset made top five in at least one building event. Syosset received 140 points from building events alone (including SoM)...which is about 45.75% of their total score. In comparison, FM received 35 points total, WM received 104 (even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...), Columbia had 64 points, and Half Hollow Hills had 75. Based on that, it looks like Syosset could easily take second place if their building events improved.

The same can be said for Columbia--they could overtake second place, but they would have to improve more overall, not solely in one area.

And I think that FM will take first place again this year, no questions asked. The coach matters, yes, but about 90% of it is actually student work. I know for a fact that my team coach doesn't teach events or do anything relating to knowledge of events (except for a couple of building events). He makes a schedule based off of what the students and coaches want, and he takes care of the budget and funding. The rest is completely up to us.


Again, these are the ramblings of a small AL'er being bored in Biology class. I could be totally wrong in all my assumptions. Please don't take offense.

[twototwenty]

Looking at the building event results, it looks like every top ten team EXCEPT for Syosset made top five in at least one building event. Syosset received 140 points from building events alone (including SoM)...which is about 45.75% of their total score. In comparison, FM received 35 points total, WM received 104 (even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...), Columbia had 64 points, and Half Hollow Hills had 75. Based on that, it looks like Syosset could easily take second place if their building events improved.

Brighton, however did even more poorly, despite having placed 2nd in Maglev...we got a total score in builds of 158. Hopefully, we will do better in that field. If we get an average placement of 10th in builds (keeping all other variables the same), we would theoretically do better than HHHE, and make top 5 (which is my personal goal). We didn't graduate an incredibly powerful senior class, at least as far as builds, and we should definitely improve.

Anyway, it would be nice to see an upset, if for nothing besides entertainment (that award ceremony would be fun to observe).

[silverheart7]

Yeah sorry for trampling on Gelinas, but I do agree that the comptetition is getting harder. There are some great schools out there that are rising.

Yeah, I agree. And it's okay, I didn't take it personally.

[JuiceBagel3]

Concerning the top five, FM looks really set. It kinda just looks like they will win again this year. But for second place? Ward Melville won by 33 points last year and 19 points the year before that--that looks like they are set. But Syosset beat Columbia by 78 points two years ago, and only 1 point last year. Going by that, it seems very possible that WM might suffer an upset this year by either of those teams.

Looking at the building event results, it looks like every top ten team EXCEPT for Syosset made top five in at least one building event. Syosset received 140 points from building events alone (including SoM)...which is about 45.75% of their total score. In comparison, FM received 35 points total, WM received 104 (even though I have heard stories about something going wrong with Heli...), Columbia had 64 points, and Half Hollow Hills had 75. Based on that, it looks like Syosset could easily take second place if their building events improved.

The same can be said for Columbia--they could overtake second place, but they would have to improve more overall, not solely in one area.

Foreverphysics, I'd say those was an extremely accurate predictions. I was actually really surprised. The difference actually between us and syosset was the medal count. They had 2 golds 2 silvers and 1 bronze, where we had 2 golds, 1 silver, and 2 bronze medals, I believe just flat scores without medals we tied last year. This year it's really between Ward/Syosset and Columbia, but to be honest, Ward's been slowly falling if you ask me, and this year I expect to see us, or syosset in second place. Haha if you have any other stats for me, feel free to let me know. Stats are fun.

[Liv]

I've heard that Weber lost a coach this year, so maybe there will be a new champion in Western Long Island? Wisdom Lane perhaps?

I believe that he is coming back to help coach actually. In addition, another teacher is taking a position as coach and 10th and 9th graders might be coming back to help coach. So, is Weber losing a coach? Not really, but lezbehonest, Mr. Grande was the driving force of that team.

p.s. see you guys at Division C regionals!!!!!

LOL NOPE.